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    Delete.

    Delete.
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    Already familiar with both. A wall will.

    Already familiar with both.



    A wall will.
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    Wasn't outvoted on abortion or gay marriage...

    Wasn't outvoted on abortion or gay marriage either one. Our liberal Supreme Court awarded us with those two.
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    It certainly ends the life of a human being....

    It certainly ends the life of a human being. There is no other way to see it.



    That just won't work. It's on the same level as saying, "Murder is not my choice, but it is the choice of many."...
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    Unborn children in the womb. That's the lives I'm...

    Unborn children in the womb. That's the lives I'm talking about. All the other stuff you talk about is just an attempt at distraction. When we talk about destroying lives in abortion, you go on a...
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    Yeah. Just like there has always been racists,...

    Yeah. Just like there has always been racists, murderers, bank robbers, and various others who engaged in bad behavior. The point is that we should join together in saying it is wrong. And again, you...
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    It worked well for centuries. Perfectly? No....

    It worked well for centuries. Perfectly? No. Nothing does that, but it is still true that when marriage was held in high esteem, divorce was much less common as were abortions. The destruction of the...
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    Forget it.

    Forget it.
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    Perhaps we can settle this with two simple...

    Perhaps we can settle this with two simple statements. Most men understand what "no" means and should honor that. Most women are quite capable of saying "no" and making it stand. So perhaps we should...
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    And women, in your view, are incapable of saying...

    And women, in your view, are incapable of saying it.
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    About as untrue a statement as I have seen in a...

    About as untrue a statement as I have seen in a long time. You did not quote me, and you stated your convictions quite well. Yours are certainly well known now. Your statements of the last eight or...
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    No. It's the very plain inference of your ideas...

    No. It's the very plain inference of your ideas that women cannot resist the advances of men.

    Isn't it strange that I am the one who is convinced that women are fully capable of behaving wisely...
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    Yeah. And you know how women are. Simple-minded....

    Yeah. And you know how women are. Simple-minded. Undisciplined. Emotionally unstable. I mean, we just have to treat them like the children they are. We must take care of them since they plainly...
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    That's called rape and is a felony. You can...

    That's called rape and is a felony.

    You can keep making excuses if you want to, but the bottom line is this. It's the woman who stands to suffer when she gets pregnant out of wedlock. We need to...
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    Strange how you always want to target the men...

    Strange how you always want to target the men only. If you want to start a movement, then start a movement for everyone to keep their pants zipped up. Besides, it is not the man who stands to suffer...
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    Don't need one. I've answered her questions.

    Don't need one. I've answered her questions.
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    One excuse is about as good as another.

    One excuse is about as good as another.
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    So you have no answer. Sad.

    So you have no answer. Sad.
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    You are avoiding the question. As for the...

    You are avoiding the question. As for the taxpayers, Tal has said that you cannot force others to follow your beliefs.




    It's a very well thought out question. I noticed you had no answer to...
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    So if a child is being beaten, starved, or...

    So if a child is being beaten, starved, or sexually abused, is it OK to kill the child now? You see, that's what my question to you is. Why is it OK to kill the child before birth but not afterwards?...
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    So here is what I do not understand. If a fetus...

    So here is what I do not understand. If a fetus is not wanted, then you say we can kill it and God will affirm that. So what about after the child is born? Does that still hold true? If not, then...
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    300 thousand dead children a year. I have no idea...

    300 thousand dead children a year. I have no idea in what way any person can call that "small". The difference is this. You don't care about the one million children a year killed in abortion. I do.
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    No. I am saying that people make decisions and...

    No. I am saying that people make decisions and they need to live with their decisions. It is not for you, according to your own profession, to force your belief on other people and compel them to...
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    Having sex outside of marriage is the mistake....

    Having sex outside of marriage is the mistake. I've been plain about that. The man is as guilty as the woman.



    So explain to us how you can kill an unborn child in a God-affirming way. If you...
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    Of course you do. You said I could not impose my...

    Of course you do. You said I could not impose my beliefs on others. Now in saying that, you are demonstrating your belief that it is wrong to impose your beliefs on others. That is your belief, and...
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    Yes, they tore down the wall in Germany when the...

    Yes, they tore down the wall in Germany when the two German states were united into one. Are you suggesting we combine the U.S. and Mexico into one country?
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    First of all, I'm always amused when someone...

    First of all, I'm always amused when someone says, "While you are free to practice as you believe your beliefs, you cannot make others practice what YOU believe." It's amusing because, of course, you...
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    You are wrong on several counts. 1. I clearly...

    You are wrong on several counts.

    1. I clearly said the mistake was to sleep around with anyone and everyone. I never suggested the child was the mistake. In fact, between the two of us, I'm the...
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    You are trying to make the case that if a person...

    You are trying to make the case that if a person makes a mistake, then the rest of us are morally, even legally obligated to support them in their mistake, even if they continue to repeat that...
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    What??

    What??
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    The same way they know the path is wide open now....

    The same way they know the path is wide open now. Word gets around.
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    From an article you linked. "Leaving aside the...

    From an article you linked. "Leaving aside the semantic difference between a wall and a fence, Trump is correct that fencing in San Diego, for example, significantly reduced "illegal traffic" when...
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    The vast majority simply walk/drive across our...

    The vast majority simply walk/drive across our southern border. Build the wall.
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    Yep. Those million poor people a year now...

    Yep. Those million poor people a year now crossing illegally will all go out and buy a plane ticket.



    Fine. Put in some electronics. One way or the other, the river is slowed to a trickle....
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    And yet we have not abandoned the idea of prison...

    And yet we have not abandoned the idea of prison walls because there is no better answer. There's a lesson to be learned there. And I doubt seriously that a million people a year will enter by boat....
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    You guys just plainly don't get it. Most of these...

    You guys just plainly don't get it. Most of these people just cross the border illegally and are never processed in any way since they are sneaking in. Now with a wall in place, most of that will...
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    Walter, very well said.

    Walter, very well said.
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    I will say very readily that Trump, in his name...

    I will say very readily that Trump, in his name calling, is as guilty as your are in your name calling.



    So I'll ask again. How many of them are you housing? How many are you personally...
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    Again, Tal refers to name calling. I really...

    Again, Tal refers to name calling. I really shouldn't have to hear anymore protests from the lib side about name calling. It's on full display here.



    I always regard it to be tragic when grown...
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    We are 22 trillion in debt and accumulating more...

    We are 22 trillion in debt and accumulating more as fast as we can. President Obama managed to accumulate almost half of that in only eight years, and Trump is doing but little better. So any plan we...
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    I'm all for it, though it would be an enormous...

    I'm all for it, though it would be an enormous undertaking, especially considering that the United States is essentially broke. In the meantime, we build a wall so we can control who does, and does...
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    Again, the great majority are not asylum seekers....

    Again, the great majority are not asylum seekers. They just cross the border illegally.
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    Very few are legitimate asylum seekers. The vast...

    Very few are legitimate asylum seekers. The vast majority just walk across the border illegally.
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    The story of the GS is a wonderful instruction...

    The story of the GS is a wonderful instruction aimed at individuals and their personal conduct. Now does it tell us to allow anyone and everyone to cross the border? No, I don't think so.
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    There is no "in other words" to it. I flatly...

    There is no "in other words" to it. I flatly stated I won't do your research for you. And you're awfully quiet for a person who has done her research. I'm pretty sure that He had nothing to say about...
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    In other words, you don't know of any. And no, I...

    In other words, you don't know of any. And no, I won't do your research for you.



    Fair enough.
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    What did He say about the lives of refugees and...

    What did He say about the lives of refugees and immigrants, and in particular about illegal immigrants?



    To be truly a humanist (which is to say a believer in humanism), in the true sense of...
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    Jesus had a lot to say about life and nothing to...

    Jesus had a lot to say about life and nothing to say about immigration. I'm not sure how you can equate the deliberate and violent destruction of innocent unborn children with trying to have border...
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    I never would have guessed it. You have been...

    I never would have guessed it. You have been Obama's chief supporter and defender on this board.
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