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Sick? Perverted? My life growing up in a farm and orchard community, dating Christian farmers' sons who had one thing on their minds.

How does a female get pregnant? (Apparently, you've never been been on a date with a male teen--or older guy.)

How many times have you wrestled with a female in order to get her on her back and be able to pull off her clothes? Or laid on the charm to accomplish the same thing? Too often, it's too late for her...

There won't be a reason or need or desire for an abortion if men keep their pants zipped up.

To avoid unwanted pregnancies, men must keep their pants zipped up.

Why would a female want an abortion?

In Christ's name and surrounded by His love, plus His love is reflected off us onto others, we don't steal, murder, and lie.

Read Micah 6:8.

Any female who wants an abortion should talk with a...

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Yes. That's the one you referred to....

The lsst thing I am is fearful. It's difficult to get past your twists and turns to have a rational discussion with you.

I was merely quoting your very judgmental term, "worthless thief". And we...

Ah, you don't know either.

What's the current question?

You are the scared one. I asked ages ago a what-if your 12 yo granddaughter got raped. I hear only crickets chirping.

Please ask your primary physician to give you a cognitive test.

"If your granddaughter is 12 and has been raped by her uncle" was the beginning of that story.

I quoted you regarding "worthless thief".

I was quoting YOU!!!

I'm finished. Goodbye.

You are guilty!!!! I was quoting you!

Has your primary doctor given you a cognitive test lately? If not, please ask for that to be done.

Please tell me in which post I used that term. (Note your use of the term in posts 61 and 62.)

You cherry-picked to make me look bad. YOU first used "worthless thief". I merely subsequently quoted your use of that term you spit out in post 62.

You misquoted me. Always cherry picking arntcha. The topic was a 12 yo girl who was raped.

Was she 12 when raped and made pregnant?

Is it breathing?

With all your contacts, find a few teen or pre-teen girls who've been molested, raped, and made pregnant. Have an honest chat with them.

Yes, a "worthless thief" if it's...

A product of rape? A 12-year-old girl who has to drop out of school for at least a year, throughout her life remembering the terrors of the rape, and whose immature body struggles with that thing...

Which is more important: that unwanted baby created by force and lust or the mental and physical health of the young girl who was raped and every day for nine months (and more) is reminded of that?...

I did not!

Your reading comprehension is slipping badly.

I will pray for you.

The same avoidance for you. It never ends. You'd rather be punitive and obey a commandment instead of reflecting and reaching out with God's wondrous love.

I'm asking YOU, sweetie, to make sure you know what tortures you may create for loved ones. Since you've never been female and unwillingly pregnant, especially at 12 in an undeveloped body,...

So you would allow, even encourage, your granddaughter, who probably doesn't even understand how she got pregnant and even all the ramifications of pregnancy, and that she has nearly nine months of...

If that girl is your granddaughter, what would you advise?

So a 12-year-old girl who was raped and made pregnant by her uncle must carry that baby for nine months and then deliver it. Of course!!!

I read it after you posted it.

Progress? I always have believed that and have helped counseling clients figure out a better way.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17)

God gave Moses the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai.


1. I am the Lord, your God, you shall have no other gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name...

Sorry, you must not be Protestant.

4th Commandment is honor your father and mother.

What church/denomination do you belong to?

In my Bible, and during all of my years of Christian education, "Thou shalt not kill" is the Fifth Commandment.

So if the fetus is dead early in the pregnancy, the mother must carry that dead fetus to term and have an OB deliver it?

SIXTH commandment?????

Just trying to emulate you....

How many women/teen girls/molested girls have you counseled and/or helped financially?

What if tests show the fetus has no head? Or limbs? or is dead?

Because you wash your hands of the situation and give no financial or moral support to a female who wants or needs an abortion.

Plus cite the number of the frame in which I said that.

Abortion is killing. The Fifth Commandment states: "Thou shalt not kill."

How did the woman conceive? Was she raped? Is she happily married - or not? Did she give consent to intercourse? How old is she? Questions to ask....

Why is there a fetus?

I'm against abortion. As a professional counselor, I have done everything possible to keep my clients secure and happy in their marriages and relationships so that abortion doesn't become an issue.

I asked YOU a question. And guess how many babies are languishing, waiting to be adopted. Heck, let's add hundreds more to that number. The demand right now is NOT enormous.

You are trying...

I did not state any "logic". I asked you a question. You refused to answer it because you have no clue.

I read about how you use your free will and then shudder.

God gave us free will.

And what will happen to all those unwanted babies that will get born?