[kp2171]

I saw three registered gop people switching their party to dem to give support to obama at the caucus.

[EIFS EXPERT]

I knew he would run for president also because when it comes down to it he is just making Hillary stronger and maybe that was the reason for him running. Realistically he is inexperienced in foreign affairs, heck he's inexperienced in domestic affairs as well. Since he's been senator he hasn't done much for his constituence.

Side note: Obama claims to be a christian, I don't buy that, but if he is then just imagine how the middle east wack jobs will take that. I don't think we are ready for another Holy war. Especially since we haven't finished with the one we're currently in.

[Wondergirl]

Obama's the real thing. His effort to become president is the real thing.

Check your facts, EIFS Expert. Look what the experienced current president has done for us.

[kp2171]

I'm confused...

You are saying electing a christian will start a holy war, or electing a black man named obama who is christian will start a holy war? The US will be seen as a christian country no matter who is elected.

I'm not trying to butt heads, since we seem to do that. You have a hillary bias that's admitted... your vote, your choice, no beef from me. But you've eluded that the US isn't ready for a man because of his name and his religion.

It might be true... but it almost sounds like you think these are reasons not to elect him. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time.

I think obama has some decent ideas, and that hed even be able to get moderate help from the gop side, and he has an ability to stir up support. I'm disappointed in his "present" votes in the IL sentate... shows he might not want to take a stand when running for election, and if you compare him to clinton, she's been present and voted a lot more... but then again she also is much better known, so he had a lot of campaigning to do...

As for experience, I can't tell you anymore what is needed. I mean who loved G.H.W. Bush? Not the dems, not the gop... and that man had a lot more experience than clinton or sonny boy...

Do you think bush would be where he is with a different group of advisors/administration? I think, maybe, yes.

I just want an election in which I get to choose between two damn fine candidates... instead of the last two when I thought it was dumb and dumber.

[EIFS EXPERT]

Wondergirl,

I'm no Bush supporter and I don't want to get into a politcal debate but
You apparently think Bush was the worse thing to happen to American politics, and with that I disagree.

As a native New Yorker I was thrilled at his take no prisoners approach to dealing with the folks overseas that want us either bearded or in burkas.

I admire his back bone and his stick-to-it-tiveness.

Obama is a lier and said he was never a muslim when it is well documented that in fact he was. I'm not racist or prejudice but I'm a little uneasy about his true intentions.

[Skell]

The most significant act of his presidency is the Iraq war and even most rightys admit what a shambles it has been. He will be remembered according to how this Iraq fiasco will be remembered. A mistake!

I think another good reflection on his presidency is the Military Commissions Act and the unlawful disgrace that it is.

[Wondergirl]

As a native New Yorker I was thrilled at his take no prisoners approach to dealing with the folks overseas that want us either bearded or in burkas.

I'm also from NY and was disgusted by his dealings with the wrong people in the Mideast. He should have gone after the Arabs whose people were in the planes that attacked the towers. But no, he secretly jetted his Arab friends out of the country.

I admire his back bone and his stick-to-it-tiveness.

You mean his stoneheadedness and narrowmindedness?

Obama is a lier and said he was never a muslim when it is well documented that in fact he was.

Nope, he wasn't. You better read up on that a little more.

[kp2171]

So what's the religious litmus test to be the leader of the US?

[Skell]

I'm not racist or prejudice

Are you sure about that?

[EIFS EXPERT]

To use the words of our illustrious leader...

"BRING IT ON."

What are you all whining about? I agree he should have gone into Afghanistan even though they never declared war. It was abundantly clear after weeks of investigating that we probably should have done something sooner.

Racist?.

Please. Far from it. Obama is not our best choice in my humble estimation. And as far as the litmus test, yeah I want a litmus test. Ever read how the women live in Saudi Arabia?

I think most women in America should think twice about Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary Clinton is far more experienced especially if you include her years as First Lady in Arkansas and in the White House. Not to mention her Two terms in the Senate as a ranking member.

[Wondergirl]

The middle name question was answered ages ago.

[EIFS EXPERT]

Yeah OK, so your satisfied with that.

[Wondergirl]

Why would you want to drag it out? It hasn't come up again, so everyone but you must have been satisfied by the explanation. He mentioned it in his first book, so it's not like he tried to hide it.

[EIFS EXPERT]

I guess I'm unique then..

But the fish don't smell right,. if you catch my drift.

He was hand picked by the powers that be to benefit the Democratic party in the long run.

But not in 2008.

[Wondergirl]

Then why has his middle name not come up at all during the campaigning? I would think that would be a hot button if it had not already been resolved.

He wasn't handpicked by anyone. Durbin encouraged him to run. Oprah encouraged him to run. Is that who you mean by the PTB?

[EIFS EXPERT]

Uhh... no. Although Oprah plays a significant role in winning Iowa I think Richard Durbin is just another pawn in the great scheme of things.
Face it, Obama will never win. He's trailing in S.Carolina, Florida, Nevada to name a few.

[Wondergirl]

Oprah had nothing to do with Iowa. Durbin convinced him to run. Mark my words on this day of our Lord, January 13, in this year of our Lord 2008: Obama will be the Dem presidential candidate.

[EIFS EXPERT]

Did God tell you that? Because otherwise how could you possibly know?

[Wondergirl]

I know. Check back later this year. We will talk again.

[EIFS EXPERT]

Will do.